Originally by: Denuo Secus

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Edited by: Denuo Secus on 21/04/2011 12:32:01

Originally by: Gypsio III

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Edited by: Gypsio III on 21/04/2011 12:01:40

Originally by: Denuo Secus

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But then a Wolf appears on the field...tackles me and pops my drones. In my HM Drake I can do enough damage to chase him of. But he just taps his MWD and flies out of lock range... comes back and continues. I never have any chance to pop the frig with HMs - not even with precisions. A turret ship could do this, simply by navigating or just due to good conditions (range, transversal).

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WTF is this drivel? Really. HM Drake vs. MWD AF? You can kill ABing AFs with a HAM Drake under sentry fire.

Try tackling the Wolf. Then it won't just fly off out of your range. You should be able to kill a tackled MWD Wolf in a HM Drake before it kills your drones anyway. If it's smart enough not to come within web range, then it'll quite quickly disengage as it realises it's getting pounded. Or are you not bothering to fit a web?

If you were in a gunship, the Wolf would try to get under your tracking. If successful (let's ignore neuts here!), you may as well stop firing, because you won't hit it.

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I'd have the check the combat logs again but I guess it was an arty wolf. After my first volley he kept distance out of my disruptor or even web range. Maybe he assumed HAMs first. Also, there was no sentry fire.

I was able to fend him off! And I know what happens if said frig gets under gun tracking. This is not my point. I do not claim a missile ship is helpless against frigs.

My point:

- a gun ship can instapopp frigs and can switch to high damage ammo and do much more damage against larger targets (see: lasers are a good example I think)
- a missile ship does average damage to all. It does not destroy a competent flown frig, it fends him off

I was able to pop 3 rifters before dying to the neut Dominix in my Zealot. A HAC known for it's bad suitability against frigs. While ratting in a HM Drake a group of Taranii (?) attacked me. I was able to escape. See the difference? I don't do PvP to be able to survive or to scare my opponents. I want to beat them. In a missile ship I need to prepare for a particular target type much more than in a gun ship - imho.

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Originally by: Denuo Secus

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Originally by: Korg Tronix

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You can kill any frigate in a HML Drake if its competently fitted and flown.

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Care to elaborate? That's why I started this thread. I want to learn what I did/do wrong.

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